Disclaimer: Dennis doesn’t quite like McCain. And we, as a group, don’t, either, I guess. But I think we have our reasons.
Rudy announced he is gonna quit (by the way, is someone surprised!?).
And he’s gonna endorse McCain.
Ok, but he is after the conservative vote, isn’t it? Examples: he was big about tax cuts (he announced what was supposed to be the greatest ones in US history), appointing conservative judges, small government, and I would say, it was enough for a fairly-minded conservative who wanted to turn a blind eye to the pro-choice position, which Giuliani seemed to endorse.
Now, let’s see where McCain stands: campaign financed reforms, pro-amnesty, no drilling in Anwar (he compared it to drilling in Everglades, or Grand Canyon), importing medicine from Canada, it really hurts to think that he candidates as a conservative.
So, what is Giuliani after? No idea, but I’m sure he lost a lot of credibility with that. And he surely lost me.
Maybe I’ll even forget how he threw out Arafat in 1995, from Lincoln Center
Too bad…
Dennis Prager Show (c)
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1 Füchsin // Jan 31, 2008 at 10:36 am
I must admit, I feel confused now.
If really Giuliani was much more conservative than McCain, how comes he now supports McCain? Why doesn’t he support Mitt Romney???
Is it because of the war on terror?
Just a few days ago I read a frightening speculation about the probability of the US allying with Iran in the blog “Manfreds politische Korrektheiten”. This is a must-read! Find it here.
Is Giuliani, who certainly is strong on the war on terror – as is McCain – supporting McCain in order to prevent Obama or Clinton from winning no matter what? Is Giuliani afraid, Manfred’s scenario might get reality with Obama in power?
I’m afraid it might … with Obama wanting to talk to everybody no matter if friend or foe.
Is Romney not trust-worthy on the war on terror?
Is McCain stronger and more decided on the war on terror including the protection of Israel without taking any risks on that?
Manfred’s last sentence is:
And I must admit, I never fully understood Dennis’ strong support for Giuliani instead of Romney anyway (whom he obiously likes, too, but to my eyes it was always obvious that Giuliani was his man). I wonder whom he will support now. I think, he likes Romney’s positions much more than McCain’s, but now his favorite, Giuliani, decided to support McCain. Giuliani as vice-president would have a powerful influence in politics. Maybe McCain is going to reward Giuliani for his support in nominating him as a vice president. Both of them together would be very strong against the islamic thread in the world, very strong on helping Israel to protect from threads (e.g. from Iran), probably willing to fight Iran when Iran continues to follow its nuclear program.
Giuliani probably supports McCain in order to get the Republicans into power and to prevent the Democrats to screw up foreign politics and in the worst case ally with Iran in order to get out of Iraq as soon as possible.
Cris, you know what? It think, that’s politics. We shouldn’t let Giuliani down for his support of McCain. Maybe “throwing out Arafat in 1995, from Lincoln Center“ is exactly why Giuliani decided to support McCain who maybe would act just as decided and discerning. Maybe Romney wouldn’t have thrown Arafat out, to use this example for the picture as a whole. (Though I want to believe he would, because I like Romney.) I’m a very strong supporter of the security of Israel, too. Not only because I like Israel but also because I think, this conflict is part of the whole conflict between the West and the Islamic extremists. The West just may not lose it, nor in Israel, neither in Iraq.
2 Füchsin // Jan 31, 2008 at 4:00 pm
… just heard the recent show by Dennis Prager during I was cooking ….
Dennis didn’t comment Giuliani’s conversion to McCain with one word, did he? I think it must have surprised him a lot. Nevertheless my impression is that he will warm up with McCain if Huckabee won’t give up soon and free the way for Romney. Anyway I always had a feeling that DP’s blunt political aversion to McCain beside objective reasoning also had to do with a (not only but also) personal issue - with the campaign finance reform endorsed by McCain, that prevented DP from running for senator. There was some bitterness in it. I may be wrong on that.
3 cris // Jan 31, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I didn’t understand Dennis’ support for Giuliani either. I know he mentioned that Giuliani “strikes you as very human”, and he was mentioning his physical appearance, not his character. In contrast to Romney, who seemed “too perfect”. I’m sure Dennis won’t endorse McCain, with or without Giuliani. I guess he will vote for him, but unconvinced.
But it was Giuliani who threw out Arafat, not McCain. McCain couldn’t have disappointed me, since this happened long ago. In my opinion he ignored the conservatives several times, and I’m sure this will be reflected at the polls.
Regarding their positions on WOT: I think all three of them are OK. But I don’t give McCain so much credit. I think his position on waterboarding (which he considers torture) is wrong, and that you cannot win with the war with positions like this. Ok, he has the moral ground because he was tortured, but I wonder why for him the way he was tortured and waterboarding is the same thing. I’m wondering whether for him loud music or a dog in front of his cell would be torture too.
You’re right, Füchsin, it’s just politics. And of course he couldn’t care less whether we still like him or not. But I think it’s like going against something you don’t agree with, and I expected more from him.
I don’t see US allying with Iran. With Saudi Arabia, that is more likely. The difference between the two states is that Iran is a Shiite country, Saudi Arabia quite Sunni. The Sunni arabs don’t mind doing business with the West (even if they despise us), while the Shiite would have (I think) no problems blowing up their oil fields, just to harm the West. And beside, the Iranians are not so loved in the Middle-East (mostly a Sunni region). The Arab countries don’t want Iran to dominate the Gulf region.
4 Füchsin // Jan 31, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Hi Cris, I don’t see it either and I’m not an expert on that at all. Nevertheless, if Iran likes to dominate the region and to get the bomb … allying with the US might be a smart strategy (e.g. stopping the lethal terror in Iraq in order to get the US troops out which in turn would be a great victory for a democratic president who decidedly promised the drawback while campaigning, who would then accept the bomb a.s.o.) NOW of course it is absolutely unthinkable, but THEN …? Who knows??
About Dennis’ support of Giuliani
I remember a show last year when Dennis talked to Giuliani and they were talking so amicably and joking, that I thought they are friends. Maybe they met a couple of times and liked each other. It’s far more likely to trust and support someone you know face-to-face, isn’t it? That’s why so many of the listeners would love to have Dennis Prager running for president.
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